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		<title>By: STEVE CLARK</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/08/13/in-droves-against-rove/#comment-66610</link>
		<dc:creator>STEVE CLARK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoken like a true cynic. But there have been really no people quite like Atwater or Rove on the Democratic side, at least in my lifetime(am going on 53). I would rather lose than have a person like either of them doing dirty work for me. In that sense, my hat is off to Gore and Kerry for thinking of their country first, themselves second, when both of them conceded. 

The Websters Ninth defines a despot as "a person exercising power abusively, oppressively, or tyrannically". I think this correctly describes Bush and his administration. 

Did you ever notice how Bush has always yelled his messages down to us poor, ignorant citizens when he tells us what he is going to do to others or to us.  McCain tried to mimic this in a desparate attempt to revive his campaign, but the public no longer accepts this demeaning behavior, and it went over like a lead balloon. Bush still does it, which is embarrassing because he just doesn't get it - that the American public is much, much smarter than he or his cronies ever suspected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoken like a true cynic. But there have been really no people quite like Atwater or Rove on the Democratic side, at least in my lifetime(am going on 53). I would rather lose than have a person like either of them doing dirty work for me. In that sense, my hat is off to Gore and Kerry for thinking of their country first, themselves second, when both of them conceded. </p>
<p>The Websters Ninth defines a despot as &#8220;a person exercising power abusively, oppressively, or tyrannically&#8221;. I think this correctly describes Bush and his administration. </p>
<p>Did you ever notice how Bush has always yelled his messages down to us poor, ignorant citizens when he tells us what he is going to do to others or to us.  McCain tried to mimic this in a desparate attempt to revive his campaign, but the public no longer accepts this demeaning behavior, and it went over like a lead balloon. Bush still does it, which is embarrassing because he just doesn&#8217;t get it - that the American public is much, much smarter than he or his cronies ever suspected.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/08/13/in-droves-against-rove/#comment-66459</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a “normal” citizen,” not for one minute do I believe most of the howls of moral outrage coming from the left about Rove. The Dems would love to have someone on their side with Rove’s record of winning elections (so would I if I were running), notwithstanding his shameless use of wedge issues.

Despotism? That sounds like so much hyperventilation. GWB is constitutionally barred from seeking another term and, even if he could, he would be soundly defeated.

True despots (e.g. Hussein, Castro, Somoza, Marcos) never lose elections. They can only be defeated with the barrel of a tank staring them in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a “normal” citizen,” not for one minute do I believe most of the howls of moral outrage coming from the left about Rove. The Dems would love to have someone on their side with Rove’s record of winning elections (so would I if I were running), notwithstanding his shameless use of wedge issues.</p>
<p>Despotism? That sounds like so much hyperventilation. GWB is constitutionally barred from seeking another term and, even if he could, he would be soundly defeated.</p>
<p>True despots (e.g. Hussein, Castro, Somoza, Marcos) never lose elections. They can only be defeated with the barrel of a tank staring them in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: STEVE CLARK</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/08/13/in-droves-against-rove/#comment-66415</link>
		<dc:creator>STEVE CLARK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears the black polluting cloud of despotism is beginning to lift a little. "Normal" citizens may now be able to breathe a little and speak a little without the fear of political or employer retribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears the black polluting cloud of despotism is beginning to lift a little. &#8220;Normal&#8221; citizens may now be able to breathe a little and speak a little without the fear of political or employer retribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Cowgill</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/08/13/in-droves-against-rove/#comment-66361</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Cowgill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Steve, where ya been?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Steve, where ya been?</p>
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		<title>By: STEVE CLARK</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/08/13/in-droves-against-rove/#comment-66129</link>
		<dc:creator>STEVE CLARK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Rowe has any morals or conscience or belief in God, he will immediately begin making the rounds, apologizing Atwater style, to the hundreds of people whose lives he ruthlessly ruined in his take-no-prisoners, win-at-any-cost political strategy.  

And what did his ruthlessness win? A government that has caused literally hundreds of thousands of deaths in a bungled war against terror.  A government that has stretched thin and almost ruined our military. A government that has increased immensely in size and has spent us to the brink of catastrophe. A government that has widened the gap between rich and poor. A divisive government that has pit neighbor against neighbor. A government that worked superbly for the tidal wave victims overseas, but for some reason would not work for and had no sympathy for its own citizens/victims of Katrina. A government that rejoiced in sending thousands of businesses overseas while it railed against providing money or benefits for its own unemployed or for health insurance for its uninsured. A government that will go down in history for its fraud, waste, and graft. 

What he fought so hard for was a government the Devil would envy. He should not sleep well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Rowe has any morals or conscience or belief in God, he will immediately begin making the rounds, apologizing Atwater style, to the hundreds of people whose lives he ruthlessly ruined in his take-no-prisoners, win-at-any-cost political strategy.  </p>
<p>And what did his ruthlessness win? A government that has caused literally hundreds of thousands of deaths in a bungled war against terror.  A government that has stretched thin and almost ruined our military. A government that has increased immensely in size and has spent us to the brink of catastrophe. A government that has widened the gap between rich and poor. A divisive government that has pit neighbor against neighbor. A government that worked superbly for the tidal wave victims overseas, but for some reason would not work for and had no sympathy for its own citizens/victims of Katrina. A government that rejoiced in sending thousands of businesses overseas while it railed against providing money or benefits for its own unemployed or for health insurance for its uninsured. A government that will go down in history for its fraud, waste, and graft. </p>
<p>What he fought so hard for was a government the Devil would envy. He should not sleep well.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrence McCarthy</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/08/13/in-droves-against-rove/#comment-65001</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrence McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People seem to have overlooked the fact that Rove spelled backwards is evor.  And if one rearranges the letters in his name, the results include: vore, and over.

Over.  Like " The end of the world. "  !!!!

The more people like Horgan write about this guy, the more power the guy gets. My points are absurd, and I meant them to be. 

He's just another cog in the wheel.  He's not, nor has he ever been, the wheel. He's off to spend MTWHF.  Forgedaboud him.

Get O-V-E-R it already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People seem to have overlooked the fact that Rove spelled backwards is evor.  And if one rearranges the letters in his name, the results include: vore, and over.</p>
<p>Over.  Like &#8221; The end of the world. &#8221;  !!!!</p>
<p>The more people like Horgan write about this guy, the more power the guy gets. My points are absurd, and I meant them to be. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s just another cog in the wheel.  He&#8217;s not, nor has he ever been, the wheel. He&#8217;s off to spend MTWHF.  Forgedaboud him.</p>
<p>Get O-V-E-R it already.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Cowgill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Cowgill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't focus too much on the conservative/liberal thing.  My main point was that Rove infuriated most of the conservative GOP leadership in the House by his imperial ways.  They wanted him to win elections and then leave the legislating to more experienced hands.  He had other plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t focus too much on the conservative/liberal thing.  My main point was that Rove infuriated most of the conservative GOP leadership in the House by his imperial ways.  They wanted him to win elections and then leave the legislating to more experienced hands.  He had other plans.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Halle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Halle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don't stake your life on the convictions of a politician!  The last point I was making is that campaign-mode (ie, politicizing the federal govt) while in office is ignoble, no matter what party you belong to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t stake your life on the convictions of a politician!  The last point I was making is that campaign-mode (ie, politicizing the federal govt) while in office is ignoble, no matter what party you belong to.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

Right you are. And as Shrum and dozens of other presidential campaign managers have discovered, what sells locally doesn’t necessarily play nationally.

However, the definition of “nation’s work” is largely subjective. To most Republicans, a strong conservative agenda is “the nation’s work” (and perhaps even God’s work as well), while I’m sure someone like Kucinich would argue that ending for-profit healthcare is morally correct, would benefit the nation as a whole and (therefore) is also the nation’s work.

I'm sure Rove thinks Bush's policy's are best for the nation. In fact, I'd stake my life on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>Right you are. And as Shrum and dozens of other presidential campaign managers have discovered, what sells locally doesn’t necessarily play nationally.</p>
<p>However, the definition of “nation’s work” is largely subjective. To most Republicans, a strong conservative agenda is “the nation’s work” (and perhaps even God’s work as well), while I’m sure someone like Kucinich would argue that ending for-profit healthcare is morally correct, would benefit the nation as a whole and (therefore) is also the nation’s work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Rove thinks Bush&#8217;s policy&#8217;s are best for the nation. In fact, I&#8217;d stake my life on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Halle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Halle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry, Shrum's presidential clients never won.  He had a brilliant record in statewide elections, winning thirty Senate races and ten governorships.  That record is presumably why he was in such demand for the  big races, rather than for his charming personality. 

As for Rove, shrewd gamesmanship for the Republicans' benefit is fair in the campaign, but once you are in the WH, it has to be the nation's work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry, Shrum&#8217;s presidential clients never won.  He had a brilliant record in statewide elections, winning thirty Senate races and ten governorships.  That record is presumably why he was in such demand for the  big races, rather than for his charming personality. </p>
<p>As for Rove, shrewd gamesmanship for the Republicans&#8217; benefit is fair in the campaign, but once you are in the WH, it has to be the nation&#8217;s work.</p>
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