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	<title>Comments on: Pestilence and Disease</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Bartomioli</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-8195</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bartomioli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-8195</guid>
		<description>Terry tht is the crux of the issue.  The greenies want their clean power, but ic cannot despoil any of their beloved "pristine environment."  Although Tom raises another problem:  The project is supported by those evil capitalist republicans.  Screw global warming, it's moe important to rail against "them."

The government subsidies are supposedly necessary to make the project economically viable.  That alone shoots down capitalism.  IF windpower worked, it would attract capitalists looking to make lots of bucks.  Since it does not work as promised, at present, it is a LOSER financially.  The greenies and others have become so accustomed to Uncle Sugar supporting their ideas, it is a natural progression.  I think the common word is PORK. 

Regarding birds, the greatest threat to their existence?  House Cats.  Ask HSUS, PETA, and the other "animal rights" groups.  They will all give the same answer.  BTW, my 3 cats prefer gield mice and such.  I think they are afraid of heights.

This recent global warming blizzard reminded me of a column concerning the costs of nannyism, basically nothing to the supporters.  One example was this:

You are rabidly anti-smoking.  You are driving in a blizzard and your car breaks down.  After a few hours of wind and snow, a car finally approaches.  The driver offers assistance.  You smell the smoke reeking from him.  He explains that he smokes very heavily, and will do so during your journey.  Will you accept the ride?  At that point, the rubber meets the road.  What cost will you bear personally?  When the advocates of wind power accept these costs, perhaps it will move forward and become economically viable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry tht is the crux of the issue.  The greenies want their clean power, but ic cannot despoil any of their beloved &#8220;pristine environment.&#8221;  Although Tom raises another problem:  The project is supported by those evil capitalist republicans.  Screw global warming, it&#8217;s moe important to rail against &#8220;them.&#8221;</p>
<p>The government subsidies are supposedly necessary to make the project economically viable.  That alone shoots down capitalism.  IF windpower worked, it would attract capitalists looking to make lots of bucks.  Since it does not work as promised, at present, it is a LOSER financially.  The greenies and others have become so accustomed to Uncle Sugar supporting their ideas, it is a natural progression.  I think the common word is PORK. </p>
<p>Regarding birds, the greatest threat to their existence?  House Cats.  Ask HSUS, PETA, and the other &#8220;animal rights&#8221; groups.  They will all give the same answer.  BTW, my 3 cats prefer gield mice and such.  I think they are afraid of heights.</p>
<p>This recent global warming blizzard reminded me of a column concerning the costs of nannyism, basically nothing to the supporters.  One example was this:</p>
<p>You are rabidly anti-smoking.  You are driving in a blizzard and your car breaks down.  After a few hours of wind and snow, a car finally approaches.  The driver offers assistance.  You smell the smoke reeking from him.  He explains that he smokes very heavily, and will do so during your journey.  Will you accept the ride?  At that point, the rubber meets the road.  What cost will you bear personally?  When the advocates of wind power accept these costs, perhaps it will move forward and become economically viable.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7996</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7996</guid>
		<description>Perhaps, but it would be interesting to see whether the environmentalists who opposed the Cape project would have supported it if it were not an example of what you call "present day GOP capitalism." I don't see how competitive bidding and more private capital would change their concerns about the viewshed and wildlife.

As for your second question, I don't know if it's a false dilemma about the birds. If the technology exists, I am not aware of it. Good question for someone who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, but it would be interesting to see whether the environmentalists who opposed the Cape project would have supported it if it were not an example of what you call &#8220;present day GOP capitalism.&#8221; I don&#8217;t see how competitive bidding and more private capital would change their concerns about the viewshed and wildlife.</p>
<p>As for your second question, I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s a false dilemma about the birds. If the technology exists, I am not aware of it. Good question for someone who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Cowgill</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7981</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Cowgill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7981</guid>
		<description>I live on Cape Cod and am somewhat familiar with the Cape wind project.  I favor wind energy and could be in favor with the present proposed location on Horseshoe Shoals,  but do not support the Cape wind project.  It reeks of present day GOP capitalism,  no-bid contracts awarded to wealthy cronies and pile on the taxpayer subsidies.  If its a good project,  why not investigate to find the best location and open it to bidders?

Do we really have the dilemma of sliced birds vs no windmills?  I think its a false one.  Are we not technologically talented enough to design wind power that does not devour our feathered friends?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live on Cape Cod and am somewhat familiar with the Cape wind project.  I favor wind energy and could be in favor with the present proposed location on Horseshoe Shoals,  but do not support the Cape wind project.  It reeks of present day GOP capitalism,  no-bid contracts awarded to wealthy cronies and pile on the taxpayer subsidies.  If its a good project,  why not investigate to find the best location and open it to bidders?</p>
<p>Do we really have the dilemma of sliced birds vs no windmills?  I think its a false one.  Are we not technologically talented enough to design wind power that does not devour our feathered friends?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7738</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William,

I've often thought there was money to be made in clean power and I'm glad the Silicon folks have latched onto something to take the place of the burst tech bubble.

The problem is clean energy projects often face opposition (e.g. the Cape wind project, new hydro dams, nuclear) from the very people (e.g. Robt. Kennedy Jr) who decry our overuse of fossil fuels. 

At a certain point we have stop worrying about how the windmills will look or whether they will slice up some birds. Getting our sorry asses out of the embrace of the corrupt Saudis is far more important.

No matter what one thinks of global warming, I think we can all agree that reducing air pollution is an important goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often thought there was money to be made in clean power and I&#8217;m glad the Silicon folks have latched onto something to take the place of the burst tech bubble.</p>
<p>The problem is clean energy projects often face opposition (e.g. the Cape wind project, new hydro dams, nuclear) from the very people (e.g. Robt. Kennedy Jr) who decry our overuse of fossil fuels. </p>
<p>At a certain point we have stop worrying about how the windmills will look or whether they will slice up some birds. Getting our sorry asses out of the embrace of the corrupt Saudis is far more important.</p>
<p>No matter what one thinks of global warming, I think we can all agree that reducing air pollution is an important goal.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7731</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a hopeful sign: Capitalism may save us after all.
The New York Times reports that venture capitalists and Silcion Valley sees riches in clean energy:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/technology/14valley.html?em&#38;ex=1174104000&#38;en=2814ff336294ecdb&#38;ei=5087%0A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a hopeful sign: Capitalism may save us after all.<br />
The New York Times reports that venture capitalists and Silcion Valley sees riches in clean energy:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/technology/14valley.html?em&amp;ex=1174104000&amp;en=2814ff336294ecdb&amp;ei=5087%0A" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/technology/14valley.html?em&amp;ex=1174104000&amp;en=2814ff336294ecdb&amp;ei=5087%0A</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Clark</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7714</link>
		<dc:creator>James Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7714</guid>
		<description>Terry,

In response to your comment about our leaders not taking global warming seriously....

Although legislative policies don't show it by any means, it is rumored that George W. has one of the most environmentally friendly estates in the country.

While he may be concerned about the environment he certainly has the interests of his cronies in industry in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry,</p>
<p>In response to your comment about our leaders not taking global warming seriously&#8230;.</p>
<p>Although legislative policies don&#8217;t show it by any means, it is rumored that George W. has one of the most environmentally friendly estates in the country.</p>
<p>While he may be concerned about the environment he certainly has the interests of his cronies in industry in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7707</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember: cigarette companies once said smoking wasn't dangerous, too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember: cigarette companies once said smoking wasn&#8217;t dangerous, too</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Bartomioli</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7682</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bartomioli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7682</guid>
		<description>Thanks to James Taranto, March 14, 2007.

A bit moe humours look at the Algoreism Effect:

'An Over-Representation of Factual Presentations'

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110009785</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to James Taranto, March 14, 2007.</p>
<p>A bit moe humours look at the Algoreism Effect:</p>
<p>&#8216;An Over-Representation of Factual Presentations&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110009785" rel="nofollow">http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110009785</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Bartomioli</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7678</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Bartomioli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7678</guid>
		<description>I thought I was watching the M&#38;M remake of Spys Like Us.

Terry, I do not take gobal warming seriously.  IF people take the time to read and consider the opposing information, the conclusion is not as cut and dried as the CLS folks would have us believe.  Algoreism hypocrisy is nothing new, and is to be expected.

My belief is akin to yours.  The CLS folks want us all to live as if we were in Darfur.  So would they, only they would live like the rulers of the country.  Look at the OPEC countries.  Obviously the carbon footprint of the majority of natives is miminal at best.  However, the aristocracy more than make up for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I was watching the M&amp;M remake of Spys Like Us.</p>
<p>Terry, I do not take gobal warming seriously.  IF people take the time to read and consider the opposing information, the conclusion is not as cut and dried as the CLS folks would have us believe.  Algoreism hypocrisy is nothing new, and is to be expected.</p>
<p>My belief is akin to yours.  The CLS folks want us all to live as if we were in Darfur.  So would they, only they would live like the rulers of the country.  Look at the OPEC countries.  Obviously the carbon footprint of the majority of natives is miminal at best.  However, the aristocracy more than make up for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7595</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/2007/03/12/warming-trend/#comment-7595</guid>
		<description>Geoff,
You didn't know the earth was flat? Didn't you get the memo? Actually, you are being kind. Others have compared me to a right-wing preacher who doesn't believe in evolution, or (get this) a Holocaust denier!

Unfortunately, it's hard for many people to take global warming seriously when its leaders don't. They continue to fly around in private jets, consume more electricity than I could ever dream of, and chug around in hybrid limos. How much fossil fuel was burned to get all those celebs to the Academy Awards so that they could lecture us on our gluttony? They do for global warming what big-spending, draft-dodging George W. Bush does for conservatism. Hypocrisy breeds cynicism.

Marshall,

Tell Mike the gas emitted is on Sunday mornings. But please, no more ballet clips when Straight Talk resumes its wall-to-wall Region 1 budget coverage. It makes Mike seem warm and fuzzy -- which might hurt his image. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff,<br />
You didn&#8217;t know the earth was flat? Didn&#8217;t you get the memo? Actually, you are being kind. Others have compared me to a right-wing preacher who doesn&#8217;t believe in evolution, or (get this) a Holocaust denier!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it&#8217;s hard for many people to take global warming seriously when its leaders don&#8217;t. They continue to fly around in private jets, consume more electricity than I could ever dream of, and chug around in hybrid limos. How much fossil fuel was burned to get all those celebs to the Academy Awards so that they could lecture us on our gluttony? They do for global warming what big-spending, draft-dodging George W. Bush does for conservatism. Hypocrisy breeds cynicism.</p>
<p>Marshall,</p>
<p>Tell Mike the gas emitted is on Sunday mornings. But please, no more ballet clips when Straight Talk resumes its wall-to-wall Region 1 budget coverage. It makes Mike seem warm and fuzzy &#8212; which might hurt his image. <img src='http://tcextra.com/terrycowgill/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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